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Islamic school would breed terrorists: residentThis is the type of racism that churches continue to support. It is a sad Elicia Murray Urban Affairs Reporter April 23, 2009 AN Islamic school in Camden would be "a breeding ground for terrorists", Churches oppose Islamic schoolChurches oppose Islamic school Elicia Murray Urban Affairs Reporter April 22, 2009 CAMDEN'S Christian leaders have united to condemn the Quranic Society, which The Gospel of Thomas.A little information about the Gospel of Thomas.For more information see http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/thomas.html I also recommend reading Elaine Pagels' book "The Gnostic Gospels" (Penguin:1979). My comments are added in *[...] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ from "Funk, Hoover & The Jesus Seminar "The Five Gospels" (Polebridge: 1993) The Nag Hammadi library turned up in Egypt in 1945. *[Coptic translation] .... Nag Hammadi has yielded a complete copy of the Gopel of Thomas, lost to view for centuries. p.9 Thomas contains one hundred and fourteen sayings and parables ascribed to Jesus; it has no narrative framework: no account of Jesus' trial, death, and resurrection; no birth or childhood stories; and no narrateed account of his public ministry in Gallilee and Judea. ... The Gospel of Thomas has forty sevebn parallels to mark, forty parallels to Q, seventeen to Matthew, four to Luke, and five to John. These numbers include sayings that have been counted twice. About sixty-five sayings are unique to Thomas. ... These materials, which many scholars take to represent a tradition quite independent of thye other giospels, provide what scientists call a "control group" for the analysis of sayings and parables that appear in the other gospels. p.15 [The following are the verses from the Gospel of Thomas which the Jesus Seminar scholars coded as: RED - I would include this item unequivically in the database for determining who Jesus was / Jesus undoubtedly said this or something very like it. PINK - I would include this item with reservations (or modifications) in the database / Jesus probably said somthing like this. I give Chapter and Verse and have only included the actual words rather than the full verse. This is found in "The Five Gospels" pp 471 - 532] *[RED SAYINGS - I would include this item unequivically in the database for determining who Jesus was / Jesus undoubtedly said this or something very like it.] 20:2 8 *[Heaven's imperial rule] "It's like a mustard seed. (It's) the smallest of all seeds, but when it falls on prepared soil, it produces a large plant and becomes a shelter for birds of the sky." 54:1 "Congratulations to the poor, for to you belongs Heaven's domain." 100:2 "Give the emperor what belongs to the emperor, give God waht belongs to God." [*PINK SAYINGS- I would include this item with reservations (or modifications) in the database / Jesus probably said somthing like this] 2:1 "Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. 5:2 "For there is nothing hidden that will not be revealed." 6:5 "After all, there is nothing hidden that will notb be revealed." 9:1-5 "Look, the sower went out, took a handful(of seeds), and scattered (them). Some fell on the road, and the birds came and gathered them. Others fell on rock, and they didn't take root in the soil and didn't produce heads of grain. Others fell on thorns, and they choked the seeds and worms ate them. And others fell on good soil, and it produced a good crop: it yielded sixty per measure and one hundred twenty per measure." 10:1 "I have cast fire upon the world, and look, I'm guarding it till it blazes." 14: 4-5 "When you go into any region and walk about in the countryside, when people take you in, eat what they serve you .... After all, waht goes into your mouth will not defile you; rather, it's what comes out of your mouth that will defile you." 26:1-2 "You see the sliver in your friend's eye, but you don't see the timber in your own eye. When you take the timber out of your own eye, then you will see well enough to remove the sliver from your friend's eye." 31:1 "No prophet is welcome on his home turf ..." 32:1 "A city built on a high hill and fortified cannot fall, nor can it be hidden." 33: 2-3 "After all, no one lights a lamp and puts it under a basket, nor does one put it in a hidden place. rather, one puts it on a lampstand so that all who come and go will see its light." 35:1-2 "One can't enter a strong person's house and take it by force without tying his hands. Then one can loot his house." 36:1-2 "Do not fret from morning to evening and from evening to morning, (about your food - what you're going to eat, or about your clothing - ) what you are going to wear. (You're much better than the lillies, which neither card nor spin. ...)" 39:3 "As for you, be as sly as snakes and as simple as doves." 41:1-2 "Whoever has something in hand will be given more, and whoever has nothing will be deprived of even the little they have." 45:1 "Grapes are not harvested from thorn trees, nor are figs gathered from thistles ..." 47:2-4 "And a slave cannot serve two masters, otherwise that slave will honour the one and offend the other. Nobody drinks aged wine and immediately wants to drink young wine. Young wine is not poured into old wineskins, or they might break, and aged wine is not poured into a new wineskin, or it might spoil." 62:2 "Do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing." 63:13 There was a rich person who had a great deal of money. He said, "I shall invest my money so that I may sow, reap, plant, and fill my storehouses with produce, that I may lack nothing." These were the things he was thinking in his heart, but that very night he died." 64:1-11 A person was receiving guests. When he had prepared the dinner, he sent his slave to invite the guests. The slave went to the first and said to that one,"My master invites you." That one said, "Some merchants owe me money; they are coming to me tonight. I have to go and give them instructions. Please excuse me from dinner." The slave went to another and said to that one, "My master has invited you." That one said to the slavve, "I have bought a house and I have been called away for a day. I shall have no time." The slave went to another and said to that one, "My master invites you." That one said to the slave, "My friend is to be married, and i am to arrange the banquet. I shall not be able to come. Please excuse me from dinner." The slave went to another and said to that one, "My master invites you." Tyhat one said to the slave, "I have bought an estate, and I am going to collect the rent. I shall not be able to come. Please excuse me." The slave returned and said to his master,"Those whom you invited to dinner have been asked to be excused. The master said to his slave, "Go out on the streets and bring back whomever you find to dinner." 65:1-7 A ... person owned a vineyard and rented it to some farmers, so they could work it and he could collect its crop from them. He sent his slave so the farmers would give him the vineyard's crop. They grabbed him, beat him, and almost killed him, and the slave returned and told his master. His master said, "Perhaps he didn't know them." he sent another slave, and the farmers beat this one as well. Then the master sent his son and said, "Perhaps they'll show my son some respect." Because the farmers knew that he was heir to the vineyard, they grabbed him and killed him." 69:2 "Congratulations to those who go hungry, so the stomach of the one in want may be filled." 76: 1-2 The father's imperial rule is like a merchant who had a supply of merchandise and then found a pearl. That merchant was prudent; he sold the merchandise and bought the single pearl for himself." 78:1-2 "Why have you come to the countryside? To see a reed shaken by the wind? And to see a person dressed in soft clothes, (like your) rulers and powerful ones? ..." 86:1 "(Foxes have) their dens and birds have their nests, but human beings have no place to lay down and rest." 89:1-2 "Why do you wash the outside of the cup? Don't you understand that the one who made the inside is also the one who made the outside?" 92:1 "Seek and you will find." 94: 1-2 "One who seeks will find, and for (one who knocks) it will be opened." 95: 1-2 "If you have money, don't lend it at interest. Rather, give (it) to someone from whom you won't get it back." 96:1-2 "The father's imperial rule is like (a) woma. She took a little leaven, (hid) it in dough, and made it into large loaves of bread." 97: 14 "The (Father's) imperial rule is like a woman who was carrying a (jar) full of meal. While she was walking along (a) distant road, the handle of the jar broke and the meal spilled behind her (along) the road. She didn['t know it; she hadn't noticed a problem. When she reached home, she put the jar down and discovered it was empty." 98:1-3 "The Father's imperial rule is like a person who wanted to kill someone powerful. While still at home he drew his sword and thrust it into the wall to find out whether his hand would go in. Then he killed the powerful one." 99: 2 "Those here who do what my Father wants are my brothers and my mother. ..." 109 "The (Father's) imperial rule is like a person who had a treasure hidden in his field but did not know it. And (when) he died he left it to his (son). The son (did) not know (about it either). He took over the field and sold it. The buyer went plowing, (discovered) the treasure, and began to lend money at interest to whomever he wished." 113: 2-4 [Father's imperial rule] "It will not come by watching for it. it will not be said, "Look, here!' or "look, there!' Rather, the Father's imperial rule is spread out upon the earth, and people don't see it." "Seven Principles of Cosmic Spirituality" - Tom HarpurSeven Principles of Cosmic Spirituality
from http://www.tomharpur.com/visionstatement.asp Bishop Lucifer!Lucifer of Cagliari(LUCIFER CALARITANUS) A bishop, who must have been born in the early years of the fourth century; died in 371. His birthplace and the circumstances of his youth are unknown. He first appears in ecclesiastical history, in full maturity of strength and abilities, in 354 when he was deputed by Pope Liberius, with the priest Pancratius and the deacon Hilary, to request the Emperor Constantius to convene a council, to deal with the accusations directed against St. Athanasius and his previous condemnation. This council was convened at Milan. Lucifer there defended the Bishop of Alexandria with much passion and in very violent language, thus furnishing the adversaries of the great Alexandrian with a pretext for resentment and further violence, and causing a new condemnation of Athanasius. Constantius, unaccustomed to independence on the part of the bishops, grievously maltreated Lucifer and his colleague, Eusebius of Vercelli. Both were exiled, Lucifer being sent to Germanica, in Syria, and thence to Eleutheropolis in Palestine; he was finally relegated to the Thebaid. from http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09410b.htm "Like A Mighty Wind" Mel TariIt is unfortunately true that Christians who refuse to use their God-givenminds and who desperately WANT to believe in miracles are easily conned. Mel Tari's "Like A Mighty Wind" is a case in point. http://www.amazon.com/Like-Mighty-Wind-Mel-Tari/dp/0892211210 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ THE MYTH: In Indonesia, God sends a group of Pentecostal children on an evangelism trip to a neighboring village (apparently without parental supervision). God tells the children to go straight to the village without stopping, but, on the way, the children pass a fruit tree and decide to stop and eat some fruit. They take off their nice clothes first so as not to get them dirty while climbing the fruit tree. Soon, the children are playing and munching happily, but all that comes to a crashing halt when they look around and discover that their clothes are gone. Then they see the clothes--way up in the top of a huge tree that they cannot climb. God is punishing the children for their disobedience. The children cry and pray and repent, and so God speaks to them and tells them to send one of the boys to climb the tree. The boy doesn't think he can do it, but when he starts climbing the tree, his hands and feet stick to the bark like a spider. He scampers up the tree and retrieves the clothes, and the children continue their evangelism trip. COMMENTS: This whopper appears to have originated in the twisted mind of Mr. Mel Tari. It is one of many, many ghastly lies promoted in his books Like a Mighty Wind and Gentle Breeze of Jesus. According to Mel, there was a Great Revival in Indonesia, during which people were raised from the dead, evangelists walked on water, amazing healings occurred, and water was turned into special God-brewed nonalcoholic wine. Too bad nobody got any pictures. The most disturbing thing about this story is that it reveals Mr. Tari's twisted concept of God. In this story, God sounds like a schoolyard bully, stealing little kids' clothes and holding them out of reach until the children start to cry. And the spider-boy? That's just weird. Side note: In 1994, evangelist Mel Tari was convicted of fraud in a California courtroom and ordered to repay hundreds of thousands of dollars that he stole from a former supporter. During the court proceedings, excerpts from Tari's books were read and the victim testified that these had led her to trust Tari, believing that he could perform "physical and financial miracles". To see an article on Tari's fraud conviction in Christianity Today archives, click on the link below: http://www.ctlibrary.com/ct/1994/august15/4t950b.html from http://www.pentecostalfreedom.org/forbidden_fruit.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ { Last Page } { Page 1 of 92 } { Next Page } |
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