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• Tuesday 23 January 2007 - Who's that... in the bushes? Steve Irwin? Russell Coight? No... it's Goannaman!

We escaped over the weekend... went to Blackdown Tablelands with the kids (well, minus one who couldn't get the time off work). It's one of those lovely lost and leafy spots that I've wanted to visit for so long... but more about the place some other post. This one is specifically to point out that some people can be rather silly... even without the aid of alcohol.

We returned from a morning hike to find our rubbish had been raided. There were bits of plastic and paper strewn around, and it didn't take us long to discover the culprits... Goannas... three of them.

"Ooh, they're cute," gushed Miss 14 (or should I say 15thisyear), "can we take one home?" (Miss 14 is a reptile freak, and has been hassling us for a snake (or lizard if we won't let her have a snake) for several years now).
"No, you can NOT!" replied the mother (such a meanie). "Apart from the fact that you can't just keep a native species... reptile or not... the bastards have big claws and sharp teeth. They'll climb up your leg if they get a fright, and rip it to shreds in the process... and besides, their mouths are disgusting. If it bites you, you'll get septicemia, or something."

This led into a long ranting (but informative) story of how I learnt to shoot at the age of around 6 or 7. At the time we lived on a cattle station in west Qld, and it was my job to look after the chooks. This meant collecting the eggs, feeding the chooks, keeping the predators out, and patching up the fence when they did get in. About the only predators we really had to worry about were foxes and goannas... neither of which are very pleasant if you come face to face with them. Hence, I learnt to shoot at a relatively young age. The foxes were easy, it was the goannas that proved a challenge. Their skin is tough and wrinkled, which would bounce the bullets off... leaving them slightly annoyed... if that happens, RUN... they know who did it... and they're quick. The trick to killing them was to get them in the soft spot just behind their ear, aiming into the skull towards the brain... and that's today's lesson.

No, it's not... today's lesson is on listening to others... and thinking carefully before acting.

SOMEONE... we won't say who... decided that he should show the kids how to feed a goanna. Hmmm... isn't that a bit silly, dear? Didn't you hear what I just said?? About the teeth and the septicemia??? It's probably not the best thing to show the kids, don't you think???? But no... Crocodile Dundee here just HAD to have a go... so despite the idea not being the best (in my books, at least) I grabbed the camera. I certainly wasn't going to miss out on this opportunity. I'll admit, it looked really cool the first time...





Even the second and third... keep those fingers tucked away now...





And then he decided to offer the beast the little bit of meat that had stuck to his thumb. Stupid, stupid, stupid! Or... as he puts it (after the fact though, mind you)... he just wanted to show the kids that goannas really do have teeth... and they're sharp. What better lesson could they get? Good idea, baby... what a brainwave!



So far so good with the septicemia thing...



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• Tuesday 23 January 2007 - For the greater good!

Posted by TheKittycatGirl06
I love the hindsight wisdom, trying frantically to save face.
I remember reading about a woman doing that sort of thing here in the States so she could get a good picture. She smeared honey on her baby's hand so that a bear would lick it off for that cutesy-poo factor. The bear, failing to understand this, ate the baby's whole hand.
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• Tuesday 23 January 2007 - Untitled Comment

Posted by hjanderson
nasty... but nice looking goanna :o)
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• Tuesday 23 January 2007 - "I'll be careful... I promise."

Posted by tinacee
Once the blood flow was curbed... and there was a lot... I laughed at his un-thinking-ness. There's nothing quite like someone else's stupidity to make one feel superior. Imagine the ribbing...

"Oh, you KNOW I'm going to blog about this one! hee hee hee"

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• Tuesday 23 January 2007 - I guess it just looked like another sausage to the goanna.

Posted by snowy
Always did wonder about that gryphonn...
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• Tuesday 23 January 2007 - Just a chance to have another dig...

Posted by tinacee
Looks like a sausage... smells like a sausage... SNAP... yep, it tastes pretty much like a sausage too.
:o)
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• Tuesday 23 January 2007 - Could have been worse, I guess

Posted by snowy
;o)
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• Tuesday 23 January 2007 - Aries67@work

Posted by reptiletrader
Firstly - really great photos!
Secondly - let Miss 15thisyear have a snake, they make great pets!
Thirdly - I nearly died when you told me how to shoot one! I have to sell them as pets on a daily basis here!
Fourthly - Sorry Gryph, but don't put your fingers in their mouth!!!
And...
This might give you some food for thought re the septicemia thing...
http://www.upn29.com/news/story.asp?1650459
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• Tuesday 23 January 2007 - Pets, Gabby???

Posted by tinacee
Really? Goannas? Apart from my inbred dislike for the creatures... wouldn't they be too big and difficult to house? I've never heard of anyone having a pet one before. Now, don't get me wrong, I like lizards... I'm just not all that impressed with the ones that could disembowel a child with ease. Apart from this episode, I have seen what a goanna can do. Their claws alone can cut down to the bone. Imagine the pressure needed to climb a tree as quickly as they do. Add the fact that I've seen them 3 or 4 metres long and the damage can triple. I've seen a leg literally ripped to shreds because one thought it was a tree.

As for the snake... the answer was yes years ago... providing she buys the licence and cage (the more she wants one, the more likely she is to get a job to pay for it). It's a pretty expensive pastime when all is taken into account. Having said that... my niece has a couple of pairs of snakes and is just waiting for them to mature a bit more before breeding them. She's promised my daughter one for her 18th birthday... cage (which she builds) and all. All that's left to pay for will be the licence. She's rapt.

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• Tuesday 23 January 2007 - We have about 5 species that can be kept as pets in WA

Posted by aries67
Including the giant Gould's Monitor!
You should have a chat to TheBat45, she breeds Merton's Monitors I think and her female is called Princess Diana!
Captive bred make great pets! I even heard of one being walked on a lead in Kalgoorlie! We have a smaller species, a ridge-tailed monitor who is an ambassador on our school incursions called Princess who really seems to like human company! Everyone wants to take her home! I guess it depends which side of the fence you experience them from first!

Edited by aries67 on Tuesday 23 January 2007 at 4:47 AM
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• Wednesday 24 January 2007 - I knew they were intelligent...

Posted by tinacee
some might put them on the same level as dogs. And these ones certainly didn't mind humans. They hung around the camp for a while and they didn't really hassle anyone too much. They could have attacked us if they wanted to, but they were happy just to hope for something to eat. I think they're pretty well fed too. A couple of them had old injuries to their tails (I'll show you sometime), which told me that they might have annoyed the wrong people at some time. That gave me the shits... because despite my dislike they are just animals and deserve to be left alone.

Anyway... for those who are interested... here's his take...
http://www.blognow.com.au/GDS/46083/Why_is_everyone_laughing_at_me.html

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• Thursday 25 January 2007 - Miners

Posted by aries67
We get a lot of miners that tell us stories about the monitors hanging around camp kitchens for food. They even know to come at meal times. Not touchable but not touchy either!
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