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16/7/2008 - A temporary change of mind......

Today I got an email from some poor hard working fellow that has been scammed by Ebay it's self - big time.....

And I thought "Naaaaaaaa Fuck Ebay"....:

These are the very wroughts that Ebay have fucked me over with and they are still doing it to tens of thousands of others...

This is the emai to me:


Hey whats up man round your site by searching fuck ebay. lol. I am a power seller keep about 8000 things listed and I am about to quit ebay as well. It just sucks this negative feedback thing where a seller can not leave feed back if fucked (over by the buyer). I have 2 or 3 good stories for you.
 
Last year I was suspended for 4 weeks because I listed a toy Lone Ranger cap gun without making the end of it orange.
I had no idea I had to. They took down all of my 8000 listings and kept all the money. So the 4 week suspension cost me about 14 grand.
 
Second story is right now pay pal. I sold a Amplifier System to a guy in May. Sent it with tracking as required I have every shipping receipt, etc. The guy charged his credit card back even though he clearly has the item.

So paypal took 800 from me. The guy has the Amplifier and my friend I sold it for has his 700 I paid him. So i am out over 2000 bucks.

 Paypal said I might get my money back up to 75 days LOL fuck them.

Then just yesterday I sold a guy a guitar to a new ebayer. I sent it parcel post - this takes about 2 weeks. He did not get it yet.

So of course assholes at paypal took my $260 bucks.

Fuck them all they suck.
 

Ebay Regularly and as a Wholesale Business, steals money from people.....

And do you know what - Ebay got it's fucking face kicked in at the ACCC**, over it's trying to get away with forcing people to use PAYPAL and ONLY Paypal - for all transactions.....

**(
Australian Competition and Consumer Commission)

Over 700 people and organisations stood up to be counted and said "NO - Ebays application for immunity from prosecution for monopolising the online payment system - to their OWN company, is unethical, dishonest and it deprives consumers of their right to choose".

And "Ebay's application - under the guise of "safer trading" is nothing more than a desperate grab for cash - and we all know it".

But the people who manage Ebay lost that round and then kept up a really slimy "almost as good as" practice of (more or less) excluding other forms of payment, by:

a) Forcing all sellers to PROVIDE Paypal as a payment option whether they wanted or to use Paypal or not; and

b) Ebay started doing a big blitz on the advertising by forcing "USE PAYPAL" adds down the sellers and buyers throats at every sale; and then

c) Ebay made the listing of payment options with PAYPAL in 10 foot high lettering (what the sellers didn't want), and the alternatives to Paypal
( what the sellers did want), in tiny, teeny, itsy bitsy small little letters, wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy down at the bottom of the page... about 200 floors below satans anus.

d) And Ebay - after forcing everyone to take the "PAYPAL" as a payment option - eveyone who listed, their auctions and sales with words to the effect, "Paypal is Ebays option and we prefer (or only use) direct deposit (or similar) -

Ebay started REMOVING these peoples listings...... and of course - "Keeping the Fees"......



The sellers and buyers are people who are paying this company for a tiny little bit of webspace, they are getting ripped off to use it, and this is the fucking shit that this company is soooooo fucking arrogantly imposing upon them.......

Yes - Scumbay in full flight.......

To put this in another context:

Well on one hand I think organ donation is a wonderful thing.... but on the other hand, if you don't want it and don't consent to it, and ones most fondest dies - then you bury them.....

Then the body has to be exhumed (dug up) 3 months later....

And all you find is a box full of rocks......


Well Ebay ARE the thieving body snatchers - of online auctions....

Relentless and remorseless -

The management of Ebay is like a pack of child sexual abusers....
.

If they are not able to molest enough of the small people at the play ground, then they will try to abduct them on the way home from school - and if they can't do enough of that, then they will start stealing them from their beds at night...

They just commit the most horrendous crimes, and then they tell the most barefaced lies to cover up for the bullshit and then they NEVER  EVER give up trying to rob and rip off and fuck over people.

It's an extortion racket - minus the guns but with the death threats....


These are the sort of scumbags who operate Ebay - take out the word "small person" (children), and substitute "buyers and sellers' - and the lying, the exploitation and the pathology - is exactly the same.

Ebay does use standover mechant antics against people and these people USE "death threats" to other peoples online business's and livelihoods.

The people who manage Ebay ARE fucking scum.

Ebay is a criminal organisation.

The buyers and sellers in Australia - are NOW fighting back against these lying, thieving, bullying bastards.....


This is what I want to hear - people standing up for themselves.....

I am so proud of you all......

Although personally I'd prefer to see a riot, thorough beatings with bats and a lynch mob - for the management of Ebay and all the scum who take tenure to fuck other people over on their behalf -  this is a pretty good substitute.


http://www.australianit.news.com.au/story/0,24897,24020196-15306,00.html

Rivals, users besiege eBay over PayPal

Fran Foo | July 15, 2008

ONLINE auction giant eBay Australia has rejected claims that it breached the Trade Practices Act, while staving off threats from its own members to take it to court.

Last week, PayPal rival Paymate wrote to the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission claiming a recent move by eBay ran counter to the law.

In April eBay applied for legal immunity from the ACCC as it sought to introduce two payment measures: by May 21 all sellers would be required to include PayPal in its list of payment methods, and by June 17 only PayPal and cash on delivery would be recognised for sales.

After several months battling it out with the ACCC, the financial sector and its own members, eBay backed down from the second proposal but the first went through.

The fact that eBay sellers are required to offer PayPal is anti-competitive, according to Paymate.

"It restricts the ability of ourselves and other payment options to be used by eBay members because of the preferential treatment PayPal is afforded," Paymate managing director Dilip Rao said.

"It is our belief that eBay, in both Australia and New Zealand, is engaging in conduct in breach of the Trade Practices Act."

EBay spokesman Daniel Feiler said the claims were unfounded.

"We absolutely refute the claims made by Paymate," Mr Feiler said.

"If a seller wants to offer Paymate on eBay they are free do so, but we promote PayPal because it is the safer option," Mr Feiler said.

Mr Rao declined to comment on eBay's reaction, choosing instead to leave matters with the ACCC.

ACCC spokesman Brent Rebecca said the agency did not usually comment on complaints received or whether any investigation may be under way.

"As we have previously said, requirements that traders make available PayPal among the payment choices offered is in itself unlikely to raise trade practices concerns.

"However, the ACCC would be concerned about misrepresentations made in relation to such a requirement or further conduct that restrains traders' ability to offer other payment systems," Mr Rebecca said.

Meanwhile, a group of eBay members has begun to mobilise their local parliamentary representatives to help investigate ways to sue eBay.

"EBay's recalcitrant behaviour has pushed us to the point that we must now use the legal system to bring them into line with decent trading practices," group spokesman Tony Green said.

The group had decided to use legal due processes to stop eBay from "destroying its own site", he said.

"We are eBay's customers and to date they have refused to listen to us.

"EBay has left us no alternative but to appeal to the courts to right the wrongs that eBay has forced upon us," Mr Green said.

Mr Feiler declined to comment on the group's actions.

 

Ebay is a criminal organisation -


The management of Ebay STEAL money from people, they LIE to people, they STAND OVER people and they CON people.....

How they play the Confidence Trickster - It's in their terms and conditions "The Ebay Policies" - stating "Paypal Protection will cover you for loss. (up to some fictious amount)....

Then you read the fine print -


It's not an automatic guarantee and it's not applied across the board to ALL sales - as the management of Ebay want to portray it.

 

Remember this is Ebay - a company who's management has a history of lying out their collective arses as often as they breath.

Ebay owns Paypal - they set all their own policies - and all the income they generate from sales and theft, goes into their pockets - not yours and that's just how they intend to keep it.


Their policies and their practices - are specifically designed to lull the stupid and gullible - and the too lazy to read the fine print people; into a false sense of security.

IF you read Ebays terms and conditions and their policies, you will see TWO things.

1. They have stacked the deck of cards against you from the very beginning.

2. It's ONLY after YOU have jumped through an extraordinary amount of hoops, and you have had to make a minimum amount of sales, and  you have had to pay up big time on postal insurance and all this other really hard to justify expenses and time consuming activities - making it both very expensive and very difficult and or generally impossible to qualify for getting the "Paypal Protection".......

(***If a normal real world shop front pulled this kind of bullshit, the owners  in most countries would soon be facing charges of the "fucking with the consumer" kind." - but the management of Ebay thinks it's immune to the principles of Fair Trading Laws - they skirt a very thin line from actually conning people outright - by using extremely slippery policies and terms and conditions.)


Then they use these "terms and conditions" and their policies to automatically 'disqualify enormous amounts of people - FROM their "Oh so freely offered Paypal protection".


And if you can jump through all the hoops, pay all the expenses and and meet all the conditions to actually qualify for "Paypal protection" - the people who run Ebay won't pay it.

They will do it by fucking you around so badly, by ignoring you and giving you the run around - and making arbartry and idiotic "judgements" out of your favour - Until you give up and go away...


The Paypal Protection Policy - is a Confidence Trick.

(You mean this is a company that plays deceptive mind games with it's customers - the buyers and sellers?)

 

Oxford Dictionary:

confidence trick

(N. Amer. also confidence game)

  • noun an act of cheating someone by gaining their trust.

Cambridge Dictionary

Definition

con (TRICK)   Show phonetics
verb [T] -nn- INFORMAL
to make someone believe something false, usually so that they will give you their money or possessions:

She felt she had been conned into buying the car.

Thieves conned him out of his life savings.
He managed to con £20 out of them (= get that amount from them by deceiving them).

con   Show phonetics
noun [C] INFORMAL
a trick to get someone's money, or make them do what you want:
It's a con - you get half the food for twice the price!
a con trick

 

Wikionary

confidence trickster (plural confidence tricksters)

  1. Someone who takes part in a confidence game.

confidence game (plural confidence games)

  1. A swindle in which the mark, or victim, is defrauded after his or her trust has been won.


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