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Thursday, September 17, 2009 - Phil Cohen - The Man with the Cock of Rock - jams it up Ebays date again.


http://www.auctionbytes.com/forum/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=24296

Shill Bidding on eBay: Case Study #2

Shining some light on the more sophisticated and therefore harder to detect shill bidding activity by some “professional” sellers on eBay auctions

 

Oh no, not another case study on shill bidding on eBay auctions? Yes, sorry, another one. This time a spreadsheet analysis of multiple auctions, from some "professional" sellers from the US and Australia. Needless to say the analysis demonstrates, once again, that, contrary to eBay's claims, shill bidding by many “professional” sellers is rampant on eBay auctions. The full comment and spreadsheet download links at:

http://www.auctionbytes.com/forum/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=24296

 

      “eBay does more than any other Internet company to make sure that online consumers have a safe and well-lit place to buy and sell goods. We have the most proactive and comprehensive policies and tools in place to combat fraud and illegal activity. eBay has zero tolerance for those who abuse our platform and we work to ensure criminals are arrested and prosecuted.”

This statement, made by eBay’s Department of Spin, on 26 August 2009, is, of course, just that: pure, unadulterated, “spin”. And if you believe this statement, you may as well believe that there are fairies at the bottom of the garden, too. But, seriously, this is the reason why eBay has made so many poor decisions in recent years, they are so busy spinning fairy stories for their consumers and for the financial market and its dopey analysts, in an effort to maintain the share price, that they are continually too giddy to make a logical decision about anything else.

Or, to paraphrase what a correspondent recently told me, when you attempt to resell at auction on eBay, desirable collectibles that you had some years earlier bought at auction on eBay, and you cannot achieve half what you originally paid for them, you know there is something amiss on the “Road to San Jose”.

And so, further to my earlier detailed case study of naive shill bidding on eBay, posted at
http://www.auctionbytes.com/forum/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=24033
I offer the following study of the more sophisticated and therefore slightly harder to detect “professional” shill bidders who are now running even more rampant on eBay; such activity made harder to detect and even harder to keep track of over time by eBay’s masking of bidders’ unique IDs; as a consequence the bidding process is even less transparent, and buying at an eBay auction is much more problematic.

Synopsis

 very little of the auction system security, that eBay claims to offer buyers, exists in fact;

 eBay has no effective matter-of-course verification of users: unscrupulous users can apparently have as many user IDs as they may have email addresses, and clearly there is no effective matter-of-course cross checking of such IDs;

 by the lack of any effectual system to proactively detect shill bidding, eBay has always effectively—and knowingly—“aided and abetted” unscrupulous shill-bidding sellers to defraud naïve (and some not so naïve) buyers, and by so doing, eBay benefits from the resulting higher “final valuation fee”;

 the masking of bidding IDs with non-unique, absolutely anonymous, periodically changing aliases serves no purpose other than to further obscure all but the most naive of shill bidding, making it difficult for even experienced buyers to protect themselves and track suspicious bidding activity over time, and defeats utterly any attempt at programmatic analysis of bidding patterns to expose such criminal activity;

 In the normal course of events, only those user-reported sellers who, by their utterly naïve and blatant shill bidding activities, so embarrassing expose eBay’s lack of any effective control of this criminal activity, will incur a nominal penalty from eBay, a penalty so ineffective that it is simply a charade;

 eBay has no interest in doing anything truly effective about shill bidding for to do so may well decimate the “professional” sellers that use the auction process on the eBay marketplace and on whom eBay relies for much of its revenue. To actually do something truly effective about such criminal activity would undoubtedly detrimentally affect eBay’s bottom line, and we could not have that now, could we?

 the linked spreadsheet analysis of some eBay auction data, once again, demonstrates that eBay—contrary to their claims—has no effective “proactive” nor “sophisticated” systems for the detection of undisclosed vendor (“shill”) bidding and that such criminal activity is rampant on eBay.

The detail of the matter

eBay is not a local auction, frequented by those who understand the dangers of the auction process, and where the auctioneer may well take bids from insects climbing up the wall; eBay is ubiquitous, remote and every detail is digitally recorded; eBay therefore has the ability to do much more with that data to better detect and control shill bidding. With respect to sales, on the eBay marketplace, by the auction process, eBay is “the auctioneer” (who else can be?) and in most jurisdictions has a statutory obligation to not facilitate shill bidding. My contention is that they do not do anything truly effective because it is not in their financial interests to do so, and by their lack of any effective proactive action they, in effect and knowingly, aid and abet unscrupulous sellers to defraud buyers.

Since eBay has masked all bidding IDs with non-unique aliases (comprised of two characters: about 1600 possible combinations), it is no longer possible for genuine bidders to be certain about anything. And that is, undoubtedly, the principal purpose for such masking.

Some people naively believe eBay’s fairy story that this masking of the unique bidder IDs was introduced to “protect” bidders from scam emails; this is nonsense; that “problem,” if it ever was a real problem, was solved by the blocking of access to bidders’ direct email addresses.

Some others actually believe that such masking was introduced to protect users who had apparently used their email address “name” as their eBay user ID and were receiving scam emails on that basis: emails were supposedly being spammed to eBay IDs with alternative ISP provider names of every common ISP provider (ie, eBayID@aol/google/hotmail/etc). I consider this reason, if it was ever put by eBay, to be simply too absurd to contemplate.

And to any other eBay apologists I would simply say that if eBay had—as they claim to have—any truly “proactive” and “sophisticated” systems in place for the detection of shill bidding, there would not be any shill bidding for users to detect, and my abovementioned earlier case study of naïve and blatant shill bidding clearly indicates that they indeed have no such effective system. The only shill bidding eBay does anything about is that which is reported by users, and for the confirmation thereof or otherwise by eBay, I have no doubt eBay relies on some very unsophisticated system of data matching. That which goes undetected by users …

It should be clear to any thinking person that the non-unique masking of bidder IDs (particularly that form of masking suffered by users in the UK) never had anything to do with the “security” of bidders—indeed, just the very opposite is the case—it has only ever been about the obscuring of all but the most naïve of shill bidding so that this criminal activity would be less of a problem—for eBay, that is.

Such non-unique masking also stops third-party providers, such as “GoofBay”, from applying truly sophisticated algorithms to eBay’s bidding data to expose the type of sophisticated shill bidding that would otherwise be difficult for genuine bidders to manually detect—and certainly not possible to detect on an individual-auction basis from eBay’s Bid History pages. One can only assume that the regular exposure, by third parties, of such criminal activity never suited eBay.

The Bid History Details pages, provided supposedly as a counterbalance to the masking of bidders’ IDs, contains a “30-Day Summary”. Why is this summary only 30 days and not 90 days, or infinite? I would submit that eBay’s “nod, nod, wink, wink”, attitude to shill bidding requires that “professional” shill bidders be able to “refresh” their shill IDs by rotating them over as short a period as possible. If the summary was over 90 days the shills would need 60 shill IDs instead of 20, if the summary was infinite, heaven forbid! And that is were an ongoing spreadsheet analysis comes in handy.

eBay continues to, disingenuously, claim that shill bidding is a minor problem that they have under control. I would suggest that, following the introduction of “hidden bidders”, shill bidding has blossomed and is now running rampant on eBay auctions, and the fact that I have previously demonstrated that eBay has no truly effective system to control this criminal activity is an indictment of their total lack of principles in providing for their “buying” users.

In anticipation of the “spin” that the eBafia’s “made men” will undoubtedly again put on this matter, I will again reiterate that the examples of obvious and probable shill bidding in the linked spreadsheet are not simply a (further) “few examples” from the “100 million” eBay listings, but are from only some “hundreds” of listings mostly from my areas of personal interest.

Unlike eBay, I don’t have the capacity to check every auction, I only look at those auctions for items that interest me or for items from those sellers (usually “professional” traders) that are regularly listing items for sale, some of whom I have suspected of shill bidding. Not all the sellers listed in the spreadsheet have any appearance of shill bidding and a number of apparently scrupulous sellers are left in the list for comparison purposes.

Again, unlike eBay, I have to work with the non-unique aliases that are not only dynamic in that the accompanying feedback values, that supposedly serve to differentiate bidders at a moment in time, may increment over time. Also, the two-letter alias is apparently also changed on a quarterly basis (what possible purpose could that serve other than to make such analysis problematic—which, undoubtedly, is eBay’s intention).

As the masked bidding aliases are not unique it is also now possible to have more than one bidder on the same auction with the same alias—as is demonstrated in this spreadsheet list. Even though eBay appends the bidder’s feedback count, which may help to differentiate like aliases at a given moment in time, this can never be definitive; however unlikely, it is possible to have multiple bidders with the same alias and the same or similar feedback count; also, in the normal course of events, feedback counts may increment, making it difficult to even manually analyse such data over any time, and certainly impossible to programmatically do any such analysis.

Then, auction data remains available on line for only 90 days and there is no way to identify an underbidder uniquely to see if that bidder has a longer-term relationship with the seller that may suggest shill activity (shills that win auctions rarely leave or receive feedback, but that in itself is an indicator that it is a shill) and, of course, the quarterly changing of even these masked aliases effectively stops that analysis too.

It should, however, always be borne in mind that where a particular bidder (or bidders) does appear on more than one auction from the same seller, it is possible (to a varying degree, depending on the category of goods, eg, unique collectibles) that it could be a genuine bidder (or bidders) interested in more than one item from that one seller. Conversely, it could be some other seller’s shill merely diluting the proportion of his own-auction bids—with never any intention to buy—so that his own-auction activity does not become obvious on the bidder’s Bid History Details page: these could be some of those bidders in the list who habitually place early “no win” value bids on many nominal-start items from various sellers.

You can imagine how much more positive any such analysis could be if we still had the unique (anonymous) bidders’ IDs to work with: then we would be able to further investigate a bidder’s bona fides. Clearly, eBay has decided that that is not in eBay’s interests.

Of course, eBay has access to those unique IDs, and eBay could do such a much more effective analysis. After all, such a simple analysis is not that difficult, even I can do it with a spreadsheet, and some effort.

Why then won’t eBay do such an analysis? Undoubtedly they have already done such an analysis, and because such analysis will have shown just how much suspected shill bidding is going on, they prefer to not talk about it, and they won’t do anything effective about the problem lest their “bottom line” be detrimentally affected. The non-unique masking of the already anonymous bidding aliases to further obscure such activity was a much simpler and less revenue-threatening, albeit disingenuous, way of dealing with the matter.

Then there is the use of the seller-selected “private” auction format. What I call eBay’s “classic shill bidders’ tool”. This auction format has always made it absolutely impossible for genuine bidders to protect themselves from such criminal activity. Notwithstanding that such “private” auctions will invariably have a greater number of bids thereon than a standard auction may have (I wonder why?), there is simply no way of analysing the bidding on such auctions. A few are listed in the spreadsheet because the usually higher number of bids on such auctions is a telling phenomenon and the reader can come to his own conclusion as to why that would be so. If it is because a shill bidder is active, only eBay can know, because they do have access to the underlying bidder IDs—but they aren’t going to tell us.

The fact is, if you bid other than at the latest practicable moment (preferably only on the starting price, if you think that is a fair price) on such a “private” auction, on the balance of probability, you are going to be “taken to the cleaners”—and eBay knows that too. Only a fool could possibly think, or a most disingenuous person suggest, that shill bidders have not always made much more use of this classic shill bidders’ device than ever did any seller concerned about the “privacy” of his buyer—and eBay knows that too.

Regardless, even without the aid of a truly sophisticated shill-detection software algorithm, it still comes down to the “pattern” of bidding by the suspected shill bidder with the seller: how many auctions, what types of items, the proportion of auctions therefrom, etc.

But, bear in mind that, alone, a high percentage of “Bid activity with this seller” may or may not be an indication of shill bidding: 100% of bid activity on only one auction with a seller, may not be significant; 100% of bids on a number of auctions with one seller only is obviously very significant. Certainly, as the number of auctions of the seller that a bidder is bidding on increases—regardless of the number of bids on each auction—the probability that it is shill bidding increases exponentially.

However, the more sophisticated “professional” shill will have multiple shill bidding IDs (as is demonstrated in this spreadsheet), and will have prepared same by continually placing bids on many other low-start auctions from multiple other sellers (and possibly even “buying” feedback from other like criminals), so that the percentage of “bids” with the particular seller will never appear abnormal, indeed may be thereby kept so low as to appear beyond any suspicion, and some examples of such possible “own-auction diluting” activity can be observed in this spreadsheet.

So, when looking at a competing bidder’s Bid History Details page—particularly that of a nibble-bidding competitor—you should also watch for any great deal of losing bid activity on multiple other sellers’ auctions: this type of activity may be an indicator that the bidder is thereby diluting the record of his bidding on his own auctions. Of course, eBay’s masking of bidders’ IDs means that such analysis can now only be done with an extensive collection of data as is compiled in this spreadsheet.

Let’s face it, genuine bidders either (naively) “nibble” bid or they eventually wise up and “snipe” a strategic single bid near the end. The appearance of any bidding patterns in between these two extremes, particularly any nibble bidding by a high feedback ID, should be looked upon as a potential “red flag.” Also, as demonstrated in the abovementioned linked earlier AuctionBytes post, eBay’s “proxy” bidding system is so open to abuse by unscrupulous sellers that to set a maximum proxy bid early on in an auction can be an invitation to indeed pay the maximum that you have indicated you are prepared to pay.

Patterns of bidding worthy of further analysis are not hard to find; simply search any auction category, skip over all those very, very, many items with zero bids until you come to one (or a group) with an out-of-the-ordinary number of bids thereon, then check that seller’s other items; you may find that that seller has abnormal activity on all, or many, of his items, and the clincher, of course, will be his use of the “private” auction format (can you guess why?).

As this spreadsheet analysis only examines the information on the primary Bid History page (not the Bid History Details page) and looks for the appearance of common bidders on a particular seller’s auctions, most of the suspected shill bidders in this collection will fall into this “less obvious” category, and will not stand out even on the Bid History Details pages. It therefore is never sufficient to examine the bid history details for only the auction in which you are interested; you must also examine, at least, the primary Bid History pages of some other auctions from the same seller for the appearance of any common bidders that may indicate that shill bidders are active, such as the examples exposed in this spreadsheet analysis.

The spreadsheet summarises the data from the primary Bid History page. This data can be sorted by a number of pre-defined sorts designed to expose bidding patterns that indicate levels of likelihood of shill bidding. Some of those “levels of likelihood” in this list go well beyond simple “likelihood”. And eBay would be aware of that too.

The bidders’ feedback counts are those extant on the noted date that this “dynamic” data was collected and may increment over time. The, always superfluous, three asterisks included in the masked bidding aliases have been removed and those aliases that appear more than once on a seller’s auctions have been flagged with an asterisk.

(You have to ask yourself, what sort of child-like logic was used when eBay made the decision to include three superfluous asterisks in every alias? And, let’s not bother to question why eBay did not choose to create a unique masking …)

The somewhat consistent “rolling” nature of the appearance of these flagged bidding IDs suggests that many of these sellers went to the same “How to Shill Bid” seminar or, possibly, they are subscribing to a shill bidding service of some sort.

You may also notice, if you sort the spreadsheet by “Bidders” only, that even when one of these flagged aliases appears on another seller’s auction (sans flag), they are almost never the winning bidder and may well be one of those bidders making very early nominal-type bids on others sellers’ actions for the purpose of diluting the proportion of bidding on their own auctions. Each bidder’s highest bid only is recorded to help make such activity more noticeable.

A very low feedback count is another potential “red flag”: every new user starts with zero feedback, but there seems to be a plethora of such “newbie” bidders in recent times. But do they actually buy anything? If every shill bidding seller now has about twenty bidding IDs, and they all start with zero feedback ... (Maybe this is from whence eBay is getting its recently claimed increase in users.)

Another potential “red flag” is a seller’s listings switching from auctions to fixed-price “Buy It Now” type listings; this could be part of the “nominal” penalty imposed by eBay when a seller is reported for, and is found to have been, (blatantly) shill bidding. Unscrupulous sellers don’t like “fixed price” listings because, if you can’t get what you want for an item at auction with a nominal start, without shill bidding it, it’s not going to sell for the price you want at a fixed price.

At the extreme, a number of the listed sellers actually have more shill IDs bidding (and sometimes winning) than genuine bidders, for example, the seller “art.warren” has multiple shill IDs outnumbering genuine bidders on his auctions by about 10:1. One of his shills more often than not wins his auctions. Whether eBay gets any FVF out of such “sales” would be a good question; certainly this vendor appears to be selling very little to genuine bidders. Then not many, even scrupulous, sellers in this category (“Paintings”) appear to be selling very much these days.

eBay is in the process of introducing a new “View Item” page. You may notice that the “High bidder” is no longer recorded on this initial page: you now have to look to the Bid History page for any information on bidders, which makes it just that bit harder for genuine bidders to spot a known common bidder placing an early (surreptitious “reserve”) bid on a seller’s auctions. Now, why would eBay do that? And, the “starting details”: price and date have also disappeared. Now, why would they do that? (Shill bidding is much more likely to occur on items with a very low starting price relative to their market value.) Presuming that these people at eBay are not all simply stupid people, the only reason for these further changes to the View Item page can be to further obscure matters. And I think we all understand why anyone ever wants to make any matter less transparent, don’t we?

But, if you are one of those buyers that are still dabbling on eBay, you don’t need to worry, as eBay’s “proactive” and “sophisticated” shill detection systems will root out these fraudsters before they get a chance to cheat you ...

Needless to say, the above comments don’t apply to the UK site where the style of masked alias (“Bidder x”) makes it simply impossible for genuine bidders to do any such spreadsheet analysis; users of the UK site are now able to protect themselves only from the most blatantly obvious and naïve of shill bidders. The sophisticated shills (such as those recorded in this spreadsheet) now have free reign in the UK with absolutely no risk of exposure: they now don’t even need to resort to the “private” auction format to defraud buyers—and eBay knows that, too.

This spreadsheet analysis—once again—demonstrates that, contrary to their claims, eBay does not have any effective system for the detection and control of the criminal activity of shill bidding, and that such activity is now running rampant on their auction system; nor does eBay have any reason to do anything about it while consumer affairs regulators, apparently, see no problem with eBay, in effect, aiding and abetting such criminal activity.

With the exception of a couple of the sellers who were reported to me (and who have previously also been reported to eBay), the rest are a random selection of sellers who habitually use a low starting price relative to the value of the goods. Not all the sellers so analyzed over a number of auctions have any appearance of shill bidding but those are left in the list for comparison purposes. The ratio of scrupulous to apparently unscrupulous sellers in this group is simply frightening—and eBay would be aware of that too.

Does eBay—as they claim—actually do anything, in any “proactive” and/or truly “sophisticated” manner, to control shill bidding? The answer has to be an emphatic “No, beyond any doubt, they do not”.

Does eBay even care about such fraud? “No, they do not”: undetected shill bidding simply increases eBay’s revenue from the resulting higher final valuation fee.

eBay is its own worst enemy. Doing nothing but attempting to further obscure shill bidding has sapped the confidence of many experienced buyers: it’s simply too much effort to have to be constantly on the look out for the unscrupulous “professional” sellers that infest eBay auctions.

I can well understand why eBay might prefer all listings to be “fixed price”; but eBay would not then be the same and, if and when the last auction is run, someone will have to remember to turn off the lights.

It would appear to me that the eBay marketplace is little more than a “house of cards”; if so many of the “professional” dealers trading thereon cannot make a living except by bidding on their own auctions, then that suggests that their removal from the system would greatly reduce eBay’s revenues and devastate their profits, and probably reduce eBay’s capital value by seventy-five percent. (What say you about that scenario, John?)

Regrettably, eBay has become (if it was not always) simply a corporate structure that surrounds a group of most greedy, devious, unscrupulous, disingenuous, incompetent, managing executives whose only interest is the recovery of their “lost” —I suspect forever¬—performance bonuses, and whose total lack of ethics represents the ugliest face of the free enterprise system, ie, profits (read, bonuses) before principles—which, deservedly, is ultimately the road to oblivion for such organizations.

A most unscrupulous, disingenuous, dare I say, criminal organisation.

Good onya John, you really know how to grow a business!

The fact that eBay has been able to get away with effectively—and knowingly—aiding and abetting unscrupulous sellers to defraud consumers for so long is a damning measure of the effectiveness of governmental consumer affairs regulators the world over; for what is their purpose, if not to protect we simple peasants from the machinations of such unscrupulous organisations as eBay?

If somehow you missed the embedded link in the opening synopsis, the latest spreadsheet, and notes on the use thereof, can be downloaded from:
http://home.exetel.com.au/philipcohen/eBay/

Anyone wishing to offer comment on this matter can contact the author, Philip Cohen, at formset@exemail.com.au

PS: If anyone is interested in obtaining a single-page analysis of the bidders on an individual eBay auction—the way the competing bidder information should have been (more effectively) presented by eBay—try the link: http://www.ebuster.co.uk/bidhistory.aspx
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• Ebay gets gutted on the home front - Australia's Trading Post Online
• Not only is Whitman a moron - so are the idiots that work for her - Fucks China right up.
• Ebay pays NO taxes in California? (This exposes Whitman and her buddies for the lying sacks of shit they really are)
• Women are dumping Mega Woman - Princess Meggy Whitman.
• Bum Sniffing Geriatric John McCain on Tax Law - Friend of Meg Whitman.
• Consumer Watch: The Problem With Paypal
• Meg Whitman - Tax Evasion from California, California nearly bankrupt - Whitman wants to become Govenor
• Paypal - sneak fees - sneak thieves.
• Ebay India - Chief on Child Porn Charges
• Meggy loves Chain Mail - It's the only way for the old sleaze to "get" new friends.
• Dim Whitman - Makes the Head Lines.... Cashed Up B4 Big Fall
• Steve Madden Sues eBay Over Fake Watch Sales
• Setup Online Store with Google Docs and Google Checkout
• Ebay "awash" with fakes
• Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOOGLE shops - 5 minutes - your in business.
• Ebay - Skype - Licensing Issues = bye bye Skype? Hellooooo $$$
• Yes shit in your customers faces- Ebay loses massive market share in UK.
• You see now - The difference between Ebay and a Butt Plug is...
• Phillip Cohen is a LEGEND, A Genius, He has HUGE Balls - And a Hard On that reaches to Heaven
• The Ebay Tffany Fakes Fight Fires Up.
• The Big 300 Entries......... Time for a celebration!
• Net sleuth calls eBay on carpet over shill bidding - Part 2 B.
• Net sleuth calls eBay on carpet over shill bidding - Part 2 A.
• Net sleuth calls eBay on carpet over shill bidding - Part 1.
• Team Nut-Meg recycles Endorsements from Dimwits and Thieves
• Ebay makes EVEN more friends.
• Meg Whitman and Tax Avoidance
• Meg Whitman - Paypal and Political Interference.
• Has Ebay hacked YOUR computer?
• eBay faces data protection inquiry
• Ebay refusing to allow you to delete your account? Read on.
• Ebay 3rd Party Access To Your Account? Check Your Account Now!
• Meg Whitman - the Corporate Leech
• Whitman, Romney and the Granny Warriors Paypal political scandal
• Incest, Bestiality, "Porn - Porn - Porn" & Pay for it all withPaypal.
• Court Says eBay is a Criminal Enterprise
• Ebay (and Paypal) - in a nut shell.
• Back in the Gude Olde Daze of Ebay they had Square Trade - and it was a scam from the outset.
• Meg Whitman - sells child porn toys on Ebay - Part 6.
• Meg Whitman - sells child porn toys on Ebay - Part 5.
• Meg Whitman - sells child porn toys on Ebay - Part 4.
• Meg Whitman - sells child porn toys on Ebay - Part 3.
• Meg Whitman - sells child porn toys on Ebay - Part 2.
• Meg Whitman - sells child porn toys on Ebay - Part 1.
• Ebay - Tax Fraud and Swiss Bank Accounts: Part 06
• Ebay - Tax Fraud and Swiss Bank Accounts: Part 05
• Ebay - Tax Fraud and Swiss Bank Accounts: Part 04
• Ebay - Tax Fraud and Swiss Bank Accounts: Part 03
• Ebay - Tax Fraud and Swiss Bank Accounts: Part 02
• Ebay - Tax Fraud and Swiss Bank Accounts: Part 01
• Ebay sells dodgy drugs to children - Just how low can you go for a buck?
• EBay RIGGS sales....
• Ebay can fuck off and die..... Scummy freebees, and even higher fees (again)
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part XXXXIIII - Meg Whitman scums for money and asks you to spam for her
• We get letters....
• Kneecapping Ebay.......
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part XXXXIII - Meg Whitman gets a Maths and Reality Check
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part XXXXII - Meg Whitman (Mrs Potato Face) is fugly.
• Ebay changes user agreement 5 times in 2 hours (wankers)
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part XXXX - A rehash of what a thieving terd Whitman is
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part XXXVIIIII - Mrs Charisma bores everyone shitless.
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part XXXVIIII - The PR Campaign - A typical Whitman lie.
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part XXXVIII - The PR Campaign - No intelligence - No Honesty.
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part XXXVII - How her lackies spin the shit
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part XXXVI - Meggy gets a make over.
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part XXXV - Meggy doesn't get the point
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part XXXIIII - Even the Chicks hate her.......
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part XXXIII - Mega-Duck 2010
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part XXXII - Meggy weazles out of public debate....
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part XXXI - Meggy Attracts Attention Like a Bare Bumhole
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part XXX - Meggy will fuck CA, like she did with Ebay.
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part XXVIIII - Meggy HAS no friends.......
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part XXVIII - Meggies Body Language...
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part XXVII - Meggy is truly FUGLY Part II
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part XXVI - Meggy is truly FUGLY Part I
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part XXV - Meggy is a gutless weasle Part IIII
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part XXIIII - Meggy is a gutless weasle Part III
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part XXIII - Meggy is a gutless weasle Part II
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part XXII - Meggy is a gutless weasle Part I
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part XXI - Mrs Charisma - Her enemies appear on Youtube
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part XX - Mrs Charisma - Appears on You Tube.
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part XVIIII - first she says this, then she says that
• Police Template Ebay Complaint Statement....
• FEEBAYS new user agreement - Part 2L. The Principles of Contract
• FEEBAYS new user agreement - Part 2K. The Principles of Contract
• FEEBAYS new user agreement - Part 2J. The Principles of Contract
• FEEBAYS new user agreement - Part 2I. The Principles of Contract
• FEEBAYS new user agreement - Part 2H. The Principles of Contract
• FEEBAYS new user agreement - Part 2G. The Principles of Contract
• FEEBAYS new user agreement - Part 2G. The Principles of Contract
• FEEBAYS new user agreement - Part 2F. The Principles of Contract
• FEEBAYS new user agreement - Part 2E. The Principles of Contract
• FEEBAYS new user agreement - Part 2D. The Principles of Contract
• FEEBAYS new user agreement - Part 2C. The Principles of Contract
• FEEBAYS new user agreement - Part 2B. The Principles of Contract
• FEEBAYS new user agreement - Part 2A. The Principles of Contract
• FEEBAYS new user agreement - Part 1. That is forced upon you without negotiation....
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part XVIII - Former eBay chief faces skeptical tech leaders
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part XVII - Dr Jay debates Meggy.
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part XVI - Meg REFUSES to debate.
• Ebay stops fraud - 2002 and now - pick the improvement in apathy.
• EBay Faces a Lawsuit for Identifying Real Coins as Fakes
• Antitrust Lawsuit Filed against eBay over PayPal, Payments Policies
• Ebay rigs the bidding - by automatically bidding you against no one.
• Corporate Blogs and 'Tweets' Must Keep SEC in Mind Social Media Offer Immediacy and Spontaneity to Communications but Risk Running Afoul of Regulations
• Ebay, Paypal and Australia Post.
• Google and Ebay Profiting from Sale of Illegal Goods
• Reports of eBay's New Dispute Process in Action - Yes Ebay and Paypal just rock.
• The latest Ebay / Paypal Scam - giving Paypal to schools, charaties etc., Part I.
• Ebay gets nailed for FALSE ADVERTISING - again (the bullshit and conjobs continue)
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part XV - Won't Vote for Meg
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part XIIII - Her picking on same sex relationships back fires.
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part XIII - Her successor dumps her dumb ideas.
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part XII - the students think she is an arsehole.
• Paypal launders Gambling Money offshore from organised crime syndicates..
• Sue Paypal.org - have a look at this site.
• I am going to pinch ONE weppage from this site - Why? Because it's excellent.
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part XI - Whitman Fan Site #1.
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part X - Fun Names For Whitman.
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part VIIII - Get your Neg Meg T Shirts
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part VIII - Her Credibility as the Ebay CEO....
• Meggy goes down in flames Part VII
• Meggy goes down in flames Part VI
• Meggy goes down in flames Part V. (she is a hardcore fetish pornography entrepreneur too)
• Whitman goes down in flames Part IIII
• Whitman goes down in flames Part III
• Whitman goes down in flames Part II
• Meggy goes down - in flames. (or unethical CEO = incompetent Govenor)
• Ebay even fucks around our best Journo's - and their accounts get hacked too.
• The Root of all Evil - The Nazi's of Ebay.
• eBay CEO John Donahoe at Goldman Sachs Conference
• Another stock market Analyst... Some nasty ebay questions.
• For Whom the Bell Tolls - Ebay Investor Day Commeth.
• Alibaba/Taobao kicks Ebays arse in China - plans to kick Ebays arse on home turf.
• Congress nails Ebay for permitting and profiteering from fraud.
• Citi Bank - Ebay Investors Meeting Questions.
• Meg Whitman is a BORE, and a tiresome old one at that - the Delegates snooze during her speech.
• Heavily Vaselined Ex-eBay CEO Running for California Governor
• Meg Whitman - Running for California Gov - in her own words. Part I.
• Ebay Australia - Pulls my dick - Gets punched in the nose.
• The Fat Bastard Griff - Dog and Pony Show.
• Whitman and her buddies even scam the shareholders.....
• Ebay owns 118 companies - Fooey.
• Haaaa Haaaaaaaa Ebay just gets Dumber and Dumber...... Flashing Adds in listings.
• The Competition to Ebay - are now listing Millions of Unique Items
• The Competition just gets hotter - and Ebay gets sad and worse.
• Haaa haa ha - Ebay profit slumps 30%+, shares under $10 - CEO full of shit.
• eBay Alternatives News Roundup: New Features and Contests
• eBay Alternatives Pick up Steam in 2008 Thanks to Google
• The Tide has Gone OUT - on Ebay.
• The Ebay Alternatives ARE picking up Steam - and lots of it..
• China - Vision sinks boots into Ebay (Yessssssssss!)
• China-Vision - direct dropshipping to over 50 Alternatives to Ebay
• Ten different Analysts sitting on a fence - and the feedback.
• The Accountants and Stock Brokers said: Part 2.
• And the Accountants and Stock Brokers said: Part 1.
• How Meggy "Dim-Whit-man" lost her grab for other peoples domain names.
• A Fun Poem......
• Meggie Whitman runs for California Govenor..... (vomits up anus)
• Schools Out - For Ever - Ebay Univeristy - Crashes and Burns
• An almost final thought for 2008.
• The Crystal Ball - Ebay in 2009 - We Saw it First (Our Crystal Ball is better than theirs)
• Is the crash of Ebay a share buyback - resell scam?
• Almost ONE year ago - today..... Ebay - was severely shit then and things got worse.
• Feedback in the forums.
• The con-artists who run Ebay are now pushing for protection from retail price fixing?
• More insight into Paypals negligence.
• Paypal Support - now with longer hours (= more bullshit, more hours)
• Lots of people want to join a class action against Ebay - make that class actions..
• Give the little guys a go! New Small Local Auction Site
• Ebay - Best place to buy (mostly dead) stolen rare native wildlife
• People IN Ebay say "Donna-Hoe - Your a Tool".
• Cases AGAINST Paypal in the US Federal Court
• Cases AGAINST Ebay in the US Federal Court
• 2008: The Year eBay Lost Its Mojo
• Just WHO does Ebay share your personal information with? "Fuck Me!!!"
• Ecommerce Guide - Our Picks for Top eBay Alternatives for 2008
• Small Business Computing - Ebay Alternative Awards
• The Head of Ebay Australia Quits - Leaves Legacy of Dishonesty and Destruction.
• Ebay deletes objectors posts - Image Management = Crooked Company
• This guy is an astute writer - And the feed back? It's savage.
• The Growing Frustration of eBay Sellers
• eBay Buyer Incentives Are Not a Good Bargain
• eBay's Disruptive Innovations Come Full Circle - bites stupid CEO on his own arse
• eBay closes European national offices
• Ebay - Anti-Competative behaviour - Against Sellers, Buyers - Part FOUR
• Ebay - Anti-Competative behaviour - Against Sellers, Buyers - Part THREE
• Ebay - Anti-Competative behaviour - Against Sellers, Buyers - Part TWO
• Ebay - Anti-Competative behaviour - Against Sellers, Buyers - Part ONE.
• Ebid wins Webuser Award - Best Alternative to Ebay Site.
• Public confidence in Ebay = a big fat "0".
• Meg Whitman loses bid for governor domain names
• Ebay promotes FRAUD by selling it.
• L'Oreal can wax my pubes anyday - sues Ebay for being crooked wankers
• Ebay Sales attract hackers like Flies to Shit.
• Ebay Security? Ebay Customer Service? What Security - What Service?
• Ebay Poo-litics.
• Ebay / Paypal mass renegs on "buyer protection".
• Recent Ebay Glitches..... This is really BAD.
• Dr Jay goes Mental....
• PooPal Advertising
• Playing the Paypal Circle Jerk.
• EBay and Paypal sumbags our Aboriginals.
• Ebay managment are not on the ball.....
• Paypal's NOT working.... again.
• Dear Dr. Jay
• After the Collapse and Crash of Ebay
• Don from Mr Fixit dot Com Speaks.
• Ebay is in the shit. Big time. - In simple terms;
• The NASTY side of Ebay management....
• Donna The Ho' - Eats Crow.
• Ebays stocks now under $12...... Ebay founder and ex Ebay CEO's give shares = tax wrought?
• Ebay page views drop by more than 30%.... (glug, glug, glug - gasp...)
• More serious competition to Scambay - err I mean Ebay.
• He'd rather fuck a coconut?
• Meggy Whitless - The Golden Shower Queen of Pee-Bay
• Ebay scams the sellers...
• Ebays policies against bid sniping - One company places up to 300 snipe bids a second.
• Ebay Loves Shill Bidders - Why? Because Ebay makes more. That's why.
• This is just soooooooo fucking typically Ebay:
• Hows this for an Ebay Suspension?
• How Much Money EBay Stole From Me In The Last Week!
• Meg Whitman wants everyone else's "Meg Whitman" domain names
• Ebay takes over "Bill Me Later Inc" - borrows $1 billion.
• The Professional eBay Sellers Alliance - statement:: "Ebay is completely fucked"
• Meggy Whitman Gets a Hot Date!!!! (Not)
• The Attorneys General - Where, Who and How to SHAFT Ebay in the USA.
• Paypal took a survey.....
• EBAY PAYPAL and the IRS? part II - the article's great - the comments are interesting.
• EBAY - PAYPAL - IRS? Your account goes up shit creek.
• Ebay Founder becomes Champion of Social Justice?
• PayPal accounts compromised over 16 months; No response from eBay
• John McCain - Grew a brain - Thinks Witman founded Ebay.
• * * * * * * * Awards for the Best Fuck Ebay Videos
• Ebay shits in Paul Numans face.
• Ebay enters the Twilight Zone (Doo Doo Doo Doo, Doo Doo Doo Doo)
• eBay's Death By a Thousand Fee Cuts
• How the management of Ebay scams you with their "government" type bullshit.
• Ebay - How it really is.
• Dirty Deals Done Dirt Cheap - Ebay shafts sellers "Big Time".
• Ebays Credit takes a nose dive - stumbling from broken nose to kick in nuts.
• International Anti Counterfeiting Coalition Vs. Ebay - Nasty Ebay.
• 10 Top Frustrations of Ebay users - from another site:
• MARCH, 2008 “EBAY CHICAGO” COMPLIMENTARY PIZZA
• Do you know about the law of exponentiality?
• Oh Meg Whitman - we love you !!!
• Ebay Shares now $13, another 1000 employees out..
• Bid Sniping = Ebay Sleazeware.
• What Ebay fucked up in Australia - they are spreading to the rest of the world.
• "Ebay Haters" has a Face Book Site::: Whooooo Whoooooo
• Ebay sinks even lower - and lower and lower
• Ebay Sellers Fee's rise by 300%
• The Consumer, The Courts vs. Ebay - A trip down Memory Lane.
• The I Hate Ebay Support Group - LOL - Brilliant
• And before Paypal - there was SquareTtrade - slippery wording, sly ciontracts..
• Consumer Alert: PayPal's Problems
• Ebay tried to force everyone to pay, by Paypal only, back in 2005
• Amazon.com - New Payment System........................... ( = no paypal)
• 2500 Lost Heaps on Ebay Australia.....- Ebays Responses?
• Yeahhh Ebay is a Trafficker of Pirated Software and Cheap FAKES.
• This is an example of how Ebay pulls peoples "no paypal" listings:
• There are ONLY 15 people working in Paypal in Australia!
• eBay rebels take PayPal issue to the Reserve Bank of Australia
• From the eBay chat board.....
• Kicking the Ebay Bug.
• Paypal and the BIG LIE.
• A temporary change of mind......
• I think I might sign off on this blog.
• eBay still 'forcing' sellers to use PayPal
• Slimebay and the ACCC......
• Ebay releases statement - "We ARE filing for bankruptcy".
• Is Ebay about to file for bankruptcy?
• Ebay vs. the ACCC - and ALL of the Ebay Haters - & their 700+ submissions.
• Just how many policies does Ebay / Paypal have?
• Paypals "Product Disclosure Statement" ( = sign your rights away)
• 28 US Attorneys General vs. Paypal and Ebay
• The State of Play - of Ebay in Australia - Today Tonight Stats.
• ebay fee hike sparks seller rebellion 3,165 Comments
• Alistair McGibbon...... Life on Civvy Street - and the General Public.
• EBay rivals circle vulnerable auctions kingpin
• The Courier Mail...
• The BIG LIE....
• Ebay's Town Hall Meeting. (ahem)
• Fuck Ebay --------- Yay the reserve bank..... (for once) Everyone Hates Ebay's Management.
• Points to consider when opposing Ebays Application for Exclusive trading
• Whooaaa Ebay aint Freindly. Letter to the ACCC - Power Sellers United.
• Help lube the ACCC's digit as it probes deeper into the shit - send your submissions to the ACCC
• The ACCC is now probing the Anus of Ebay.
• He hates Ebay and Pay Pal too - www.screw-paypal.com - Aussie's fight back:
• Ebay now forces all sellers to ONLY use paypal.
• Ebay Australia? Your kidding right.....
• Jason goes Gunning for PayPal
• Ebay Customer Service Solutions by Jason
• An interesting report by Deucha Bank on Ebay -
• Ebay - Sellers are sinking the boots into them - shares are dropping...
• Get your own printable FuckEbay Award..... FREE - for you and your friends!!
• Hmm Some Great Anti-PayPal sites (Anti-Ebay)
• Now a Word about PayPal - from Our Friends - Paypalwarning.com
• How Ebay staff lie, scheme and bullshit people...
• You wanna read up on all the bullshit the fucking clowns in ebay put people through?
• Google Checkout... Fuck Ebay and it's Pay Pal. (Pay Pull?)
• Ebay management bullshits and blames the sellers and buyers for it's fuckups and incompetence.
• Ebay Shares have dropped in value more than 50%
• The people who run Ebay are just soooo fucking deceiful and crooked... and full of shit.
• Uhh more complaints about BAD Ebay Customer Service. What can I say?
• Ebay fucking your round with your sellers Neg Feedback?
• Hmmm Fuck Him - the Scammer Seller.
• Fuck Ebay - Kafka - The Trial (a prehistorical parody of Ebay?)
• I still hate Ebay.
• Fuck Ebay - here are some 80 + alternatives to Ebay...:)
• Bad Ebay #7 - this is pretty typical BAD EBAY / PAYPAL service / scamming.
• Bad Ebay #6 - Ebay and Paypal support Fraud.
• Bad Ebay #5... peeps are SUING EBAY (Yay!!!!)
• Bad Ebay #4. - The peoples Hate Ebay sites.
• Bad Ebay #3. Oooooooo they is bad.
• Bad Ebay #2.. they piss more people off than you can imagine.
• Bad Ebay #1.
• I hate Ebay... I have had a gutful of their shit and I have had enough

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