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Thursday, May 7, 2009 - FEEBAYS new user agreement - Part 2G. The Principles of Contract

  1. Chapter Six - Covert Tools of the Judiciary

  2. Courts employ other tests to invalidate standardized contract terms. Three widely recognized tests are: unconscionability, unfair surprise and defeat of reasonable expectations.[180] Yet, the different names of these tests do not imply fundamental differences in definition. The implied rule underlying these devices for managing terms is: what shocks the judicial conscience. Systematic rules thus are replaced with heartwarming intentions. As applied, courts mix the tests to establish a bouillabaisse of rules governing particular terms. The tests also leech from one compartment of law to another by analogical reasoning. The result: they behave with the uncertainty characteristic of measuring sub-atomic particles at high velocity. Courts hide the basis of their decisions, making it impossible for parties to plan for the future.[181] In a remarkable statement, since he introduced unconscionability in the Uniform Commercial Code, Llewellyn has remarked, "covert tools are never reliable tools." [182]

    Unconscionability

  3. Unconscionability is an integral part of equity, and has been enacted in statutory form by Uniform Commercial Code Article 2 (Sales). Section 2-302, which applies to the sale of goods, provides:
    "(1) If the court as a matter of law finds the contract or any clause of the contract to have been unconscionable at the time it was made the court may refuse to enforce the contract, or it may enforce the remainder of the contract without the unconscionable clause, or it may so limit the application of any unconscionable clause as to avoid any unconscionable result."

    (2) When it is claimed or appears to the court that the contract or any clause thereof may be unconscionable the parties shall be afforded a reasonable opportunity to present evidence as to its commercial setting, purpose and effect to aid the court in making the determination."

  4. The provision bestows authority upon a court to invalidate unconscionable terms but does not require that result. The Official Comment states, "The basic test is whether, in light of the general commercial background and the commercial needs of the particular trade or case, the clauses involved are so one-sided as to be unconscionable under the circumstances existing at the time of the making of the contract." The parties are allowed to introduce evidence, but the question of whether a contract or term is unconscionable is considered a question of law. The Official Comment continues, "The principle is one of the prevention of oppression and unfair surprise." Uniform Commercial Code Article 2A (leases) contains a mirror provision.[183]
  5. In 1967, Arthur Allen Leff in Unconscionability and the Code - The Emperor's New Clause exposed the "statutory pathology" of Section 2-302. Discussing the ten cases cited in the Code to illustrate the operation of Section 2-302, Leff observed:
    Assuming, therefore, that the ten cases are to illustrate what judges do when faced with appealing fact situations and unhelpful legal doctrines, how do they do that job? First, they illustrate only "adverse construction of language," which is only one of the four evasive techniques named in the comment. They do not exemplify "manipulation of the rules of offer and acceptance," or any findings that a clause is contrary to public policy." Thus, the cases are apparently not designed to be exhaustive on the subject of manipulative techniques. What they do illustrate, however, and quite well, is the skewing of legal doctrine that may be caused by an emotional pressure to get a more heartwarming result. It cannot be denied that uncertainty of a particularly virulent kind enters the picture when the basis of a decision and its stated basis part company.[184]
  6. Since Leff published his article in 1967, courts have applied Section 2-302 without adopting a uniform definition. The West Group 2002 pocket part to the Uniform Laws Annotated cites 20 law review articles on unconscionability and contains 15 fine print pages of case summaries. Despite this intellectual output, courts cannot even agree on whether both "procedural" and "substantive" unconscionability are required to invalidate a contract or term.
  7. The failure of "unconscionability" to control terms derives principally from the inability to define it. The Code does not define the term and the common law definition is slippery: a term that is oppressive or that gives the stronger party an unfair advantage over the weaker party.[185] One court has stated, it is "an amorphous concept obviously designed to establish a broad business ethic."[186] One commentator has put it better, and bluntly, "The word "unconscionable," as finally used in the Code, describes neither the dramatic situation of two persons bargaining nor the "imbalance" or "lopsidedness" or other quality of the resulting contract, but rather describes the emotional state of the trier which will justify his use of the section."[187] The courts have gone no farther in explaining unconscionability than Lord Hardwicke in 1867 who stated it is a bargain "such as no man in his senses and not under delusion would make on the one hand, and as no honest man would accept on the other."[188] Unconscionability cannot be reduced to a precise formula.[189] No generally accepted tests have emerged. "The cases are too fact specific to lead to a useful body of precedent."[190] "The courts thus continue to manipulate the unconscionability principle in order to reach the equitable results they desire."[191]

    The reasonable expectations test: unfair surprise

  8. State courts often use the "reasonable expectations" test to determine whether a non-negotiated term in a standard form contract should be enforced against the buyer. A typical statement of the test is, "In dealing with standardized contracts, courts have to determine what the weaker contracting party could legitimately expect by way of services according to the enterpriser's 'calling' and to what extent the stronger party disappointed reasonable expectations based on the typical life situation."[192] The "reasonable expectations" test consists of two parts. First, the parties do not have equal bargaining power. Second, the term in dispute must frustrate the reasonable expectations of the weaker party. "As this provision is applied, courts have focused on the expectations of the party manifesting assent rather than the drafter of the term, notwithstanding the language suggesting a contrary focus."[193]
  9. In order to determine what is the "reasonable expectation" of the weaker party, courts examine the written contract, the prominence of the term in dispute, the circumstances under which the contract was made, and the purpose of the term. The courts use these factors to determine whether the weaker party actually had knowledge of the term. If the weaker party had actual knowledge of the term, then the term could not have frustrated the party's expectations since a party cannot be surprised by what he knows. The signature of the weaker party, the clarity and conspicuousness of the term, as well as actual notice of the term are the key considerations in determining what the weaker party actually knew about the standardized term. If the weaker party knows about the term, it is enforceable unless it contravenes public policy.
  10. However, if the court determines that the weaker party had no knowledge of the term, then it must decide whether the term is beyond the reasonable expectations of an ordinary person. This determination of "reasonable expectation" is left to the discretion of each individual court. Because the "reasonable expectations" test lacks hard standards, courts using this test reach conclusions based on nothing more than the predilections of individual judges without supporting evidence.
  11. Take the 1976 case of Wheeler v. St Joseph Hospital.[194]Prior to his admission to St. Joseph Hospital for an angiogram and catheterization test, David Wheeler signed an admission form containing an agreement to arbitrate claims with the hospital. The Wheelers sued the hospital for damages arising from his injuries sustained during his medical treatment. The hospital sought to enforce the arbitration agreement in the admission form. The Appellate Court produced a majority opinion and a dissenting opinion. In the majority opinion, the Court noted, "a party cannot be compelled to arbitrate a dispute he has not agreed to submit" and held that Mr. Wheeler's signature did not constitute his consent to be bound by the written and clear terms of the contract.[195] The Court stated, "Absent notification and at least some explanation, the patient cannot be said to have exercised a "real choice" in selecting arbitration over litigation," despite that fact that Mr. Wheeler had the option to refuse arbitration.[196]
  12. The Court found that the admission document was a contract of adhesion. Stating, "Enforceability depends upon whether the terms of which the adherent was unaware are beyond the reasonable expectations of an ordinary person or are oppressive or unconscionable."[197] This characterization allowed to the Court to conclude that something as vague as the parties' reasonable expectations, really constituted the contract instead of the words contained in the contract itself. Without substantiation, the Court concluded that a patient, "[w]ould hardly expect his signature to an admission form to be taken as an agreement to give the hospital as well as any doctor the option to compel arbitration of a malpractice claim."[198] Taken to its logical conclusion, the rule in Wheeler would require face-to-face encounters between sellers and buyers where the seller's representative would have to explain the contents and legal effects of standard terms to the buyer.
  13. However, the dissent in Wheeler reached the opposite conclusion based on the identical set of legal rules. The dissent found that, "Almost every written commercial transaction, except one hammered out by two lawyers representing two individuals of equal bargaining power, is in a broad sense, a contract of adhesion."[199] Merging the reasonable expectations test with the unconscionability test, the dissent stated that the rules governing adhesion contracts come into play only when the contract contains terms giving the party with the superior bargaining power an unconscionable advantage. Contrary to the majority view, the dissent found that the hospital did not take any unconscionable advantage of Mr. Wheeler. The arbitration clause was spelled out in plain English, in normal size type, and appeared right above the signature line.
  14. Comparing the majority and minority opinions demonstrates the arbitrary nature of the reasonable expectations test. In juxtaposition, the majority and minority opinions represent the honest but personal preferences of the judges. Neither opinion constitutes a logical chain of legal reasoning but a broad-based policy analysis unsupported by evidence required to fortify the decision. Without taking a public opinion poll, the majority found that no reasonable person would expect to find an arbitration clause in a hospital agreement. Based upon an equal lack of evidence, the dissent found that no reasonable person would prefer litigation to arbitration. The reasonable expectations test posits the source of contract terms outside the written contract. The test permits courts to substitute their judgments for that of the authoring party. While some may argue it is better to have courts write contracts than firms, the practical consequences of judicial opinions often have unintended consequences. Courts also are unable to assemble the data needed to resolve public policy issues that transcend the limits of particular cases.

    Restatement (Second) of Contract

  15. The Restatement (Second) of Contracts is a restatement of common law in the form of a Code. It carries weight by virtue of the authority of the American Law Institute that publishes the Restatement. Although the Restatement is not enacted by any legislature, courts often cite it in support of their decisions. With respect to standard form contracts, the Restatement (Second) of Contracts, Section 211 provides: "Where the other party has reason to believe that the party manifesting such assent would not do so if he knew that the writing contained a particular term, the term is not part of the agreement." This standard focuses on the state of mind of the party preparing the standard form contract. This party usually is a professional: merchant, seller, manufacturer or attorney. The author of the contract is put in the position of asking itself what the other party to the contract would think of a particular term included in the contract. In effect, the author of the contract must ask and answer a counterfactual question: If the other party to the contract knew about the term before making the contract, would the other party reject the contract?
  16. To vacate a term under this standard, a court must find that: (1) the author of the contract had reason to believe, (2) that if the other party knew of the term, (3) the term would cause the other party to reject the term. The drafters of the Restatement explain: "For that to occur... the terms must not only be surprising, but also highly adverse to the deal."[200] Only a few states have adopted the Restatement (Second) of Contracts test.[201] In contrast to the "reasonable expectations" test, which focuses on the knowledge and expectations of the buyer, the Restatement test focuses on the knowledge and expectations of the seller. However, as implemented, there is no meaningful distinction between the straight "reasonable expectations" test and Section 211 of the Restatement (Second) of contracts. The latter, like the former, invites courts to re-write explicitly clear contracts based on the judicial view of doing justice, a method usually leading to arbitrary and debatable results.
  17. Take Lauvetz v. National Car Rental for example. The Alaska Supreme Court held that the average person renting a car would not know that the collision damage waiver would not apply to damage caused by driving the car while intoxicated.[202] Two vacationers in Alaska arranged to rent a van from National Car Rental. Osborne actually signed the rental agreement but listed Lauvetz as an authorized driver. In addition, Osborne purchased the collision damage waiver option. The terms and conditions of the rental agreement, including an explanation of the collision damage waiver, were printed on the inside of the travel folder containing the rental agreement. One term stated that the vehicle shall not be used "by any driver under the influence of intoxicants, drugs, or any other substance to impair driving ability." The rental agreement further provided:
    I understand that if the vehicle is obtained or used for any prohibited use or in violation of this agreement, then the CDW option shall be void and, where permitted by the law, the liability and comprehensive protection, PAI, PEC, and SLI insurance shall be void."[203]

    Neither Osborne nor Lauvetz read the terms and conditions. Three days later, Lauvetz, driving while he was intoxicated, got into a single car accident and wrecked the van. Lauvetz pleaded no contest to charges of reckless driving.

  18. National Car Rental sued Lauvetz and Osborne to recover compensatory and punitive damages for the wreck of the van. The complaint alleged that Lauvetz was intoxicated at the time of the accident, that the intoxication caused the accident and that the CDW did not apply because Osborne and Lauvetz were liable for damage resulting from a prohibited use of the van. The trial court ruled that the "terms and provisions of the collision damage waiver in the car rental agreement governing drunk and reckless driving are valid, binding, and enforceable, and the Court rejects defendants' position that the CDW is insurance."[204]
  19. The Alaska Supreme Court, relying upon Section 211 of the Restatement (Second) of Contracts, reversed, citing the following:
    (1) Except as stated in Subsection (3), where a party to an agreement signs or otherwise manifests assent to a writing and has reason to believe that like writings are regularly used to embody terms of agreements of the same type, he adopts the writing as an integrated agreement with respect to the terms included in the writing....

    (3) Where the other party has reason to believe that the party manifesting such assent would not do so if he knew that the writing contained a particular term, the term is not part of the agreement."

    This section establishes the general enforceability of the terms of standardized forms, whether the customer reads or understands them. However, customers "are not bound to unknown terms which are beyond the range of reasonable expectation."[205] Parsing the Restatement (Second) test from the common law "reasonable expectations" test, the Alaska Supreme Court noted that the latter reflects those "reasonable expectations" a customer would have after reading the standardized form, while the former actually presumes that the customer does not read the form.[206] Given the clarity of the terms in the National Car Rental Agreement, Osborne and Lauvetz could not plausibly have argued that the exclusions were beyond their reasonable expectations.

  20. Contrary to that view, however, the Alaska Supreme Court stated "Section [211]on the other hand, emphasizes the reasonableness of the term or condition, no matter how clear its meaning might be to the layman if he happened to read it."[207] The Court then dismissed National's arguments that "no person who drives a car that does not belong to him can have any reasonable expectation that he can drive that car recklessly or while intoxicated" and that "Lauvetz's position that a prohibition against drunk and reckless driving is an unconscionable or unreasonable limit on the CDW is absurd."[208][209] Without any empirical support, such as a study of customer habits and perceptions, the Court concluded "a consumer would not reasonably expect the damage waiver to be less than complete."[210] In the Court's view, the term "complete" meant that the driver would not be accountable for any loss, even that caused by his fault. Rather, for the Court, the relevant question was "whether the purchaser of the damage waiver reasonably expected the waiver to be subject to any exclusions."
  21. The Court's holding is nothing more than judicial law making in the insurance field. If the Alaska legislature wanted to hold insured's completely blameless for their actions in rented automobiles, the legislature could have enacted a law producing that result. The Court's holding also vindicates a dubious, even outrageous, claim made by a supposedly "ignorant" consumer. The one-thing consumers know about insurance policies, maybe the only sure thing they know about them, is that they contain exclusions. Where did the Court come up with the remarkable conclusion that a person who rents a car, drives it while intoxicated and wrecks the vehicle, then can walk away from the destruction without further cost because the person bought the CDW option? In the name of ignorance, the Court exonerates the consumer from the consequences of his fault. There is nothing in the Restatement (Second) to support this holding. First, the Restatement does not constitute an invitation to re-write insurance contracts. Second, the restatement does not suggest that a person who damages property because of a voluntary act of intoxication should be surprised to find out his contract makes him responsible for the consequences of his behavior. While the policy virtues of spreading risk across the customer base has its proponents, the Restatement (Second) has taken no position in this political debate.
  22. More important, the Restatement (Second) contains two flaws. First, if the language of "surprise" is taken literally, then the test does not hold consistently over time. When a standardized term in a contract is revealed to be a surprise, then it ceases to be a surprise if it is contained in subsequent contracts. Second, Comment f of the Restatement appears to efface the distinction between "surprise" terms and manifestly unreasonable terms. Comment f provides: customers "are not bound to unknown terms which are beyond the range of reasonable expectation." If that interpretation is correct, the Restatement (Second) test is indistinguishable from other doctrines used to police contracts and invalidate terms such as public policy and unconscionability.

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• FEEBAYS new user agreement - Part 2L. The Principles of Contract
• FEEBAYS new user agreement - Part 2K. The Principles of Contract
• FEEBAYS new user agreement - Part 2J. The Principles of Contract
• FEEBAYS new user agreement - Part 2I. The Principles of Contract
• FEEBAYS new user agreement - Part 2H. The Principles of Contract
• FEEBAYS new user agreement - Part 2G. The Principles of Contract
• FEEBAYS new user agreement - Part 2G. The Principles of Contract
• FEEBAYS new user agreement - Part 2F. The Principles of Contract
• FEEBAYS new user agreement - Part 2E. The Principles of Contract
• FEEBAYS new user agreement - Part 2D. The Principles of Contract
• FEEBAYS new user agreement - Part 2C. The Principles of Contract
• FEEBAYS new user agreement - Part 2B. The Principles of Contract
• FEEBAYS new user agreement - Part 2A. The Principles of Contract
• FEEBAYS new user agreement - Part 1. That is forced upon you without negotiation....
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part XVIII - Former eBay chief faces skeptical tech leaders
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part XVII - Dr Jay debates Meggy.
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part XVI - Meg REFUSES to debate.
• Ebay stops fraud - 2002 and now - pick the improvement in apathy.
• EBay Faces a Lawsuit for Identifying Real Coins as Fakes
• Antitrust Lawsuit Filed against eBay over PayPal, Payments Policies
• Ebay rigs the bidding - by automatically bidding you against no one.
• Corporate Blogs and 'Tweets' Must Keep SEC in Mind Social Media Offer Immediacy and Spontaneity to Communications but Risk Running Afoul of Regulations
• Ebay, Paypal and Australia Post.
• Google and Ebay Profiting from Sale of Illegal Goods
• Reports of eBay's New Dispute Process in Action - Yes Ebay and Paypal just rock.
• The latest Ebay / Paypal Scam - giving Paypal to schools, charaties etc., Part I.
• Ebay gets nailed for FALSE ADVERTISING - again (the bullshit and conjobs continue)
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part XV - Won't Vote for Meg
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part XIIII - Her picking on same sex relationships back fires.
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part XIII - Her successor dumps her dumb ideas.
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part XII - the students think she is an arsehole.
• Paypal launders Gambling Money offshore from organised crime syndicates..
• Sue Paypal.org - have a look at this site.
• I am going to pinch ONE weppage from this site - Why? Because it's excellent.
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part XI - Whitman Fan Site #1.
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part X - Fun Names For Whitman.
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part VIIII - Get your Neg Meg T Shirts
• Meggy goes down - in flames Part VIII - Her Credibility as the Ebay CEO....
• Meggy goes down in flames Part VII
• Meggy goes down in flames Part VI
• Meggy goes down in flames Part V. (she is a hardcore fetish pornography entrepreneur too)
• Whitman goes down in flames Part IIII
• Whitman goes down in flames Part III
• Whitman goes down in flames Part II
• Meggy goes down - in flames. (or unethical CEO = incompetent Govenor)
• Ebay even fucks around our best Journo's - and their accounts get hacked too.
• The Root of all Evil - The Nazi's of Ebay.
• eBay CEO John Donahoe at Goldman Sachs Conference
• Another stock market Analyst... Some nasty ebay questions.
• For Whom the Bell Tolls - Ebay Investor Day Commeth.
• Alibaba/Taobao kicks Ebays arse in China - plans to kick Ebays arse on home turf.
• Congress nails Ebay for permitting and profiteering from fraud.
• Citi Bank - Ebay Investors Meeting Questions.
• Meg Whitman is a BORE, and a tiresome old one at that - the Delegates snooze during her speech.
• Heavily Vaselined Ex-eBay CEO Running for California Governor
• Meg Whitman - Running for California Gov - in her own words. Part I.
• Ebay Australia - Pulls my dick - Gets punched in the nose.
• The Fat Bastard Griff - Dog and Pony Show.
• Whitman and her buddies even scam the shareholders.....
• Ebay owns 118 companies - Fooey.
• Haaaa Haaaaaaaa Ebay just gets Dumber and Dumber...... Flashing Adds in listings.
• The Competition to Ebay - are now listing Millions of Unique Items
• The Competition just gets hotter - and Ebay gets sad and worse.
• Haaa haa ha - Ebay profit slumps 30%+, shares under $10 - CEO full of shit.
• eBay Alternatives News Roundup: New Features and Contests
• eBay Alternatives Pick up Steam in 2008 Thanks to Google
• The Tide has Gone OUT - on Ebay.
• The Ebay Alternatives ARE picking up Steam - and lots of it..
• China - Vision sinks boots into Ebay (Yessssssssss!)
• China-Vision - direct dropshipping to over 50 Alternatives to Ebay
• Ten different Analysts sitting on a fence - and the feedback.
• The Accountants and Stock Brokers said: Part 2.
• And the Accountants and Stock Brokers said: Part 1.
• How Meggy "Dim-Whit-man" lost her grab for other peoples domain names.
• A Fun Poem......
• Meggie Whitman runs for California Govenor..... (vomits up anus)
• Schools Out - For Ever - Ebay Univeristy - Crashes and Burns
• An almost final thought for 2008.
• The Crystal Ball - Ebay in 2009 - We Saw it First (Our Crystal Ball is better than theirs)
• Is the crash of Ebay a share buyback - resell scam?
• Almost ONE year ago - today..... Ebay - was severely shit then and things got worse.
• Feedback in the forums.
• The con-artists who run Ebay are now pushing for protection from retail price fixing?
• More insight into Paypals negligence.
• Paypal Support - now with longer hours (= more bullshit, more hours)
• Lots of people want to join a class action against Ebay - make that class actions..
• Give the little guys a go! New Small Local Auction Site
• Ebay - Best place to buy (mostly dead) stolen rare native wildlife
• People IN Ebay say "Donna-Hoe - Your a Tool".
• Cases AGAINST Paypal in the US Federal Court
• Cases AGAINST Ebay in the US Federal Court
• 2008: The Year eBay Lost Its Mojo
• Just WHO does Ebay share your personal information with? "Fuck Me!!!"
• Ecommerce Guide - Our Picks for Top eBay Alternatives for 2008
• Small Business Computing - Ebay Alternative Awards
• The Head of Ebay Australia Quits - Leaves Legacy of Dishonesty and Destruction.
• Ebay deletes objectors posts - Image Management = Crooked Company
• This guy is an astute writer - And the feed back? It's savage.
• The Growing Frustration of eBay Sellers
• eBay Buyer Incentives Are Not a Good Bargain
• eBay's Disruptive Innovations Come Full Circle - bites stupid CEO on his own arse
• eBay closes European national offices
• Ebay - Anti-Competative behaviour - Against Sellers, Buyers - Part FOUR
• Ebay - Anti-Competative behaviour - Against Sellers, Buyers - Part THREE
• Ebay - Anti-Competative behaviour - Against Sellers, Buyers - Part TWO
• Ebay - Anti-Competative behaviour - Against Sellers, Buyers - Part ONE.
• Ebid wins Webuser Award - Best Alternative to Ebay Site.
• Public confidence in Ebay = a big fat "0".
• Meg Whitman loses bid for governor domain names
• Ebay promotes FRAUD by selling it.
• L'Oreal can wax my pubes anyday - sues Ebay for being crooked wankers
• Ebay Sales attract hackers like Flies to Shit.
• Ebay Security? Ebay Customer Service? What Security - What Service?
• Ebay Poo-litics.
• Ebay / Paypal mass renegs on "buyer protection".
• Recent Ebay Glitches..... This is really BAD.
• Dr Jay goes Mental....
• PooPal Advertising
• Playing the Paypal Circle Jerk.
• EBay and Paypal sumbags our Aboriginals.
• Ebay managment are not on the ball.....
• Paypal's NOT working.... again.
• Dear Dr. Jay
• After the Collapse and Crash of Ebay
• Don from Mr Fixit dot Com Speaks.
• Ebay is in the shit. Big time. - In simple terms;
• The NASTY side of Ebay management....
• Donna The Ho' - Eats Crow.
• Ebays stocks now under $12...... Ebay founder and ex Ebay CEO's give shares = tax wrought?
• Ebay page views drop by more than 30%.... (glug, glug, glug - gasp...)
• More serious competition to Scambay - err I mean Ebay.
• He'd rather fuck a coconut?
• Meggy Whitless - The Golden Shower Queen of Pee-Bay
• Ebay scams the sellers...
• Ebays policies against bid sniping - One company places up to 300 snipe bids a second.
• Ebay Loves Shill Bidders - Why? Because Ebay makes more. That's why.
• This is just soooooooo fucking typically Ebay:
• Hows this for an Ebay Suspension?
• How Much Money EBay Stole From Me In The Last Week!
• Meg Whitman wants everyone else's "Meg Whitman" domain names
• Ebay takes over "Bill Me Later Inc" - borrows $1 billion.
• The Professional eBay Sellers Alliance - statement:: "Ebay is completely fucked"
• Meggy Whitman Gets a Hot Date!!!! (Not)
• The Attorneys General - Where, Who and How to SHAFT Ebay in the USA.
• Paypal took a survey.....
• EBAY PAYPAL and the IRS? part II - the article's great - the comments are interesting.
• EBAY - PAYPAL - IRS? Your account goes up shit creek.
• Ebay Founder becomes Champion of Social Justice?
• PayPal accounts compromised over 16 months; No response from eBay
• John McCain - Grew a brain - Thinks Witman founded Ebay.
• * * * * * * * Awards for the Best Fuck Ebay Videos
• Ebay shits in Paul Numans face.
• Ebay enters the Twilight Zone (Doo Doo Doo Doo, Doo Doo Doo Doo)
• eBay's Death By a Thousand Fee Cuts
• How the management of Ebay scams you with their "government" type bullshit.
• Ebay - How it really is.
• Dirty Deals Done Dirt Cheap - Ebay shafts sellers "Big Time".
• Ebays Credit takes a nose dive - stumbling from broken nose to kick in nuts.
• International Anti Counterfeiting Coalition Vs. Ebay - Nasty Ebay.
• 10 Top Frustrations of Ebay users - from another site:
• MARCH, 2008 “EBAY CHICAGO” COMPLIMENTARY PIZZA
• Do you know about the law of exponentiality?
• Oh Meg Whitman - we love you !!!
• Ebay Shares now $13, another 1000 employees out..
• Bid Sniping = Ebay Sleazeware.
• What Ebay fucked up in Australia - they are spreading to the rest of the world.
• "Ebay Haters" has a Face Book Site::: Whooooo Whoooooo
• Ebay sinks even lower - and lower and lower
• Ebay Sellers Fee's rise by 300%
• The Consumer, The Courts vs. Ebay - A trip down Memory Lane.
• The I Hate Ebay Support Group - LOL - Brilliant
• And before Paypal - there was SquareTtrade - slippery wording, sly ciontracts..
• Consumer Alert: PayPal's Problems
• Ebay tried to force everyone to pay, by Paypal only, back in 2005
• Amazon.com - New Payment System........................... ( = no paypal)
• 2500 Lost Heaps on Ebay Australia.....- Ebays Responses?
• Yeahhh Ebay is a Trafficker of Pirated Software and Cheap FAKES.
• This is an example of how Ebay pulls peoples "no paypal" listings:
• There are ONLY 15 people working in Paypal in Australia!
• eBay rebels take PayPal issue to the Reserve Bank of Australia
• From the eBay chat board.....
• Kicking the Ebay Bug.
• Paypal and the BIG LIE.
• A temporary change of mind......
• I think I might sign off on this blog.
• eBay still 'forcing' sellers to use PayPal
• Slimebay and the ACCC......
• Ebay releases statement - "We ARE filing for bankruptcy".
• Is Ebay about to file for bankruptcy?
• Ebay vs. the ACCC - and ALL of the Ebay Haters - & their 700+ submissions.
• Just how many policies does Ebay / Paypal have?
• Paypals "Product Disclosure Statement" ( = sign your rights away)
• 28 US Attorneys General vs. Paypal and Ebay
• The State of Play - of Ebay in Australia - Today Tonight Stats.
• ebay fee hike sparks seller rebellion 3,165 Comments
• Alistair McGibbon...... Life on Civvy Street - and the General Public.
• EBay rivals circle vulnerable auctions kingpin
• The Courier Mail...
• The BIG LIE....
• Ebay's Town Hall Meeting. (ahem)
• Fuck Ebay --------- Yay the reserve bank..... (for once) Everyone Hates Ebay's Management.
• Points to consider when opposing Ebays Application for Exclusive trading
• Whooaaa Ebay aint Freindly. Letter to the ACCC - Power Sellers United.
• Help lube the ACCC's digit as it probes deeper into the shit - send your submissions to the ACCC
• The ACCC is now probing the Anus of Ebay.
• He hates Ebay and Pay Pal too - www.screw-paypal.com - Aussie's fight back:
• Ebay now forces all sellers to ONLY use paypal.
• Ebay Australia? Your kidding right.....
• Jason goes Gunning for PayPal
• Ebay Customer Service Solutions by Jason
• An interesting report by Deucha Bank on Ebay -
• Ebay - Sellers are sinking the boots into them - shares are dropping...
• Get your own printable FuckEbay Award..... FREE - for you and your friends!!
• Hmm Some Great Anti-PayPal sites (Anti-Ebay)
• Now a Word about PayPal - from Our Friends - Paypalwarning.com
• How Ebay staff lie, scheme and bullshit people...
• You wanna read up on all the bullshit the fucking clowns in ebay put people through?
• Google Checkout... Fuck Ebay and it's Pay Pal. (Pay Pull?)
• Ebay management bullshits and blames the sellers and buyers for it's fuckups and incompetence.
• Ebay Shares have dropped in value more than 50%
• The people who run Ebay are just soooo fucking deceiful and crooked... and full of shit.
• Uhh more complaints about BAD Ebay Customer Service. What can I say?
• Ebay fucking your round with your sellers Neg Feedback?
• Hmmm Fuck Him - the Scammer Seller.
• Fuck Ebay - Kafka - The Trial (a prehistorical parody of Ebay?)
• I still hate Ebay.
• Fuck Ebay - here are some 80 + alternatives to Ebay...:)
• Bad Ebay #7 - this is pretty typical BAD EBAY / PAYPAL service / scamming.
• Bad Ebay #6 - Ebay and Paypal support Fraud.
• Bad Ebay #5... peeps are SUING EBAY (Yay!!!!)
• Bad Ebay #4. - The peoples Hate Ebay sites.
• Bad Ebay #3. Oooooooo they is bad.
• Bad Ebay #2.. they piss more people off than you can imagine.
• Bad Ebay #1.
• I hate Ebay... I have had a gutful of their shit and I have had enough

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